Chapter 1640 I am the Lord(2/3)
Online malls, the profits are not as high as you think, and you don’t pay less than any entrepreneur.
For these young people who have no background and no funds, this kind of entrepreneurship is even more difficult.
At this time, e-commerce has just improved, and taxing them is to tax their hopes and future.
Recently, some of the remarks have been overstated.
Some people are saying that online store owners who sell more than 100,000 yuan a year are not as valuable as migrant workers...
I don't mean to look down on any industry or anyone.
But why do you say that starting a business online is just not doing your job properly?
Is starting a business online not entrepreneurship?
You are just thinking about the impact the platform has on you, but you have considered that e-commerce platforms are now supporting an industry, supporting countless people and enterprises.
Once taxes are imposed on the emerging e-commerce, will these people still have the passion to start a business?
I have been saying that it is not that you don’t pay taxes, but that you have to wait until the industry is completely on track and the entire industry gives people hope.
At that time, we should do it as much as we should.
Now, it's not the time.
And I haven't seen much impact on the so-called impact you have yet to see.
Isn’t it appropriate for the government to subsidize and promote emerging industries?
At the beginning, the hypermarket model was emerging, and the government was also subsidizing and promoting it?
Why do you get used to attack when you arrive at an e-commerce store?
"Mr. Ma, where does the attack come from? Let's discuss the matter!
Also, you said that it was not yet, and now in the first three quarters, the online shopping market transaction volume has reached 500 billion!
At this time, online shopping, which has been around for a few years, has reached this scale not enough to be taken seriously?
And physical stores have been hit, that's true!
Paying taxes is natural, and the industry can appropriately relax its standards in the early stages.
But now the online shopping market is no longer in its initial stage. At this time, it is disappointing to treat it differently..."
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Several people argued a lot about whether the two individual merchants should collect taxes.
At this time, Li Dong didn't say anything.
In response to the tax collection problem of two merchants, Wanjia.com is not as large as the scale of treasure collection now, and Ma Yun is enough to charge.
Besides, he does both online and offline, so it is hard to judge.
But soon, the war involved Li Dong's head.
After talking for a while, almost everyone pointed their finger at Li Dong.
Ma Yun probably felt that it was not worth it to refute alone, and then said: "You don't have to always look at 2. After all, they are young people who have no background and no funds to start businesses creating the future.
You said 2 taxation, what about the b2 platform?
b2 platform, enterprises are paying taxes.
Strictly speaking, Alibaba’s b2 pays a tax ratio that is actually similar to physical retail.
But Yuanfang Mall has a tax payment ratio of less than 2%, which is much less than physical retailing of more than 35%..."
Nowadays, for these large retail companies, the average annual tax revenue is about 35%.
These include various policy measures such as exemption, tax refund, tax avoidance, etc.
E-Mall enjoys more policies, and in fact, the tax rate is only less than 2%, which refers to self-operated business.
Tmall’s self-operated business is actually not owned by Alibaba, but by the manufacturer.
But the self-operation in the distance really belongs to the distance.
The low taxes in the Far East mean that the Far East Mall is more competitive and has more considerable profits. It also leads to the bigger impact on other physical enterprises after the Far East Mall becomes larger.
As soon as these words were spoken, everyone quickly pointed the finger at Li Dong.
Li Dong looked at everyone indignantly and said helplessly: "Didn't Lao Ma say it?"
You have to give young people a chance.
2. The entrepreneurs are young people. Have you forgotten that entrepreneurs in the distance are also young people. They need care and cannot kill the future of young people..."
As soon as these words came out, everyone was in a bad mood.
Li Dong just joked and then said seriously: "As the largest b2 platform and the largest offline retail system at present.
I listened to everyone’s arguments and thought about them.
From my point of view, what you say will be more fair.
After all, as the leader of the two lines of the distance…”
Ma Yun coughed lightly and said, "Let's talk about these boasting words again, just say what you think."
Li Dong retorted: "Why are you boasting? In fact, is there still room for debate?"
Ma Yun was speechless and there was no room for debate.
Seeing that he did not refute it, Li Dong continued: "Let me talk about Mr. Niu's theory of impact first.
You said that the rise of e-commerce has caused an impact on offline stores. This is a fact. Lao Ma said no, that is nonsense.
And as time goes by, this impact will become greater and greater, which is also a fact that cannot be denied.
But this is not a simple tax issue!”
Li Dong shook his head and said, "You should not be too biased when looking at the problem.
The development of e-commerce and the prosperity of the online shopping market are the development of the times and the inevitability of the alternation between the old and the new.
An industry is impacted, which means that this industry is not satisfactory and cannot meet the greater needs of consumers.
With the development of the economy, technological breakthroughs.
New industries and new fields are emerging, and impacting old industries and old things, or even eliminating them is also an inevitable result of social development.
It cannot be said that because we are impacted, we will ignore the roots and not develop this thing.
If you don’t develop, others are developing, you don’t improve, others are improving.
In the end, we will only fall behind more and more, and if we fall behind, we will be beaten!
At this time, what we need to do is not to target our opponents and set up some obstacles.
Today you said that e-commerce is blocking your way, you are suppressing it, and tomorrow you will also do e-commerce yourself. Then, will you set up obstacles for yourself?
How can physical retail continue to develop and continue to be competitive?
This is something that we need to break through this obstacle from ourselves.
For physical retail, at this time, we should focus on improving management level, reducing management costs, improving supply chain channels, introducing new technologies to reduce various losses, and improving service standards... These are the main things!
There is actually no need to argue about the issue of tax payment.
Paying taxes for e-commerce is a must.
But at this time, it is indeed not suitable.
Mr. Niu said that the online shopping market exceeded the 500 billion mark in three quarters, which is a fact.
It can be 500 billion, which is low and invisible compared with the entire Chinese social consumer goods market.
At this time, it is a lie to say how big and prosperous e-commerce is.
Moreover, the main performance is concentrated on us and Dabao, and we occupy more than 80% of the market share.
Paying taxes, we big platforms will not die.
But some small and medium-sized platforms that originally had little profits would almost die once they were taxed equally.
Without the filling of these platforms, this market will sooner or later decline.
The government will not be unable to see this when stifling a new industry, so the government is actually considering whether to collect taxes or not.
As far as I'm concerned, it's not very suitable.
Three or five years later, when online shopping accounts for more than 30% of the market share in the consumer goods market.
At that time, Lao Ma said he would not pay taxes, so I had to advise the government that it was time to collect taxes.”
Li Dong beat each side with a fair attitude.
But everyone listened carefully and felt it carefully. In fact, this guy said this, in just one sentence, he had already transcended this field.
Now, he is standing at a higher perspective and becoming an arbitrator for everyone.
But the fact is, this guy is actually the vested one in the greatest interests!
To be continued...