Zhang Hong is very polite, please Xinpi speak in person.

Xinpi said: "What the Chief Secretary said is indeed a theory of planning a country, which is quite consistent with the meaning of caution in war. However, this does not conflict with what General Zhou discussed, but it is just two sides. It is interdependent rather than conflicting with each other. Via has three unexplained ways. I dare to ask the Chief Secretary: The cost of sending troops to conquer is amazing. Doesn't it cost to raise troops? Jingzhou, which has been implemented for four years, cannot make ends meet, can Yizhou afford to support it? If it is not taken at this time, it will be even more difficult to take Yizhou before taking it? In the end, the general led the five states, Qingzhou, Xuzhou, and Yuzhou, and there are also three states. Why did the Chief Secretary mention Jingzhou and Yuzhou, but not Yangzhou? Vi took the liberty and dared to ask the Chief Secretary for advice."

Zhang Hong was silent for a moment and bowed slightly. "It does require a fee to raise troops, but it is not the same as the expedition. Jingzhou can raise troops for 50,000 or even more, but it may not be able to support 30,000 troops. This is one of them. If a war begins, Jingzhou cannot support it, and Yizhou is also unsustainable, but George forgot two points. First, our army attacks, Wu Yi defends, and the cost of attack and defense is very different. Secondly, you attack Hanzhong, not Chengdu, and Cao Cao is completely unmoved, and the only one who suffers losses is Hanzhong. Secondly, as for Yangzhou, I don’t know much about the situation and dare not speak nonsense. It is more appropriate to ask Changshi Yu to answer."

Xinpi turned around and Yu Fan. "I dare to ask Chief Yu for advice."

Yu Fanyang raised his hand and ignored it. "I will talk about the matter in Yangzhou later. You can explain the first two questions clearly first."

Xin Pi was speechless and had to turn to Zhang Hong again. "The cost of raising troops and conquests is indeed huge, but if you don't need to raise troops, why should you raise them? Yizhou is at the top and Jingzhou is at the bottom. It is always a striking attack. It is better to take the initiative to attack than to defend the land. Although the cost of offense and defense is high, the gains and losses of Hanzhong are not only the conflict of interests between Jingzhou and Yizhou, but also the contest between General Sun and the court. Seizing Hanzhong and cutting off Yizhou's supply to Guanzhong is a step that concerns the entire situation. How can we only focus on the gains and losses of Jingzhou? If we can take advantage of Hanzhong, the stronger I am and the weaker the court, how can it be measured by billions of military spending?"

Zhang Hong frowned slightly. "The significance of gains and losses in Hanzhong is indeed significant, but the premise is that it can seize Hanzhong. George thought that to seize Hanzhong, how many troops and how long do you need to seize Hanzhong?"

Xinpi raised his finger. "There are two solutions, one is slow and the other is urgent. If it is urgent, it is 30,000 people, one year; if it is slow, it is 10,000 people, five years."

Zhang Hong smiled. "George, are you too optimistic? Wu Yi guarded the city, but there were more than 10,000 people. You traveled thousands of miles to Hanzhong, and are you sure to win the battle?"

"The victory or defeat is certainly related to military strength, but it does not depend entirely on military strength. Five things and seven strategies are only one of them. We must not ignore it, nor do we stick to one end and ignore the rest. Even if we only use military strength, our army has obvious advantages. In terms of generals, General Zhou pacified Yuzhang and settled Jiangnan. After four years of military strength, all the battles were won, and no defeat was achieved. How could it be compared to Wu Yi? In terms of military strength, the soldiers led by General Zhou were all elite soldiers, lieutenants, and lieutenants.

Most of them came from martial arts lecture halls, military marquis, and Du Bosses, and nearly half were well-versed in military tactics. How could they be compared with generals and schools under Wu Yi? In terms of equipment, with Nanyang Iron Officials and Wood School as support, Nanyang Military Armor is famous all over the world. How could they be compared with the crude weapons used by the Qiang and Manchus in Hanzhong? When Chen Tang said about military soldiers: If Han is the Hu, one can be used to fight five. Compared with the Hanzhong soldiers, even if it is more conservative, it is more than enough to fight three. Why are you afraid of insufficient troops?"

Zhang Hong said with a slight head, pondered for a moment, and asked again: "What do you mean by the two solutions?"

"First, 30,000 people marched straight, half a year of attack, two months of return to the division, and 3 billion military expenditure; second, 10,000 people went to war, step by step, gradually eroded, taking Shangyong, taking Xicheng, two years of fighting, and then taking Hanzhong. The military expenditure was 5 billion, which may be more in the first year, but it will not exceed 2 billion." Xinpi smiled. "Chief, this cost of Jingzhou should be able to support it, right?"

Zhang Hong pondered for a moment and nodded solemnly. "If it does not exceed 3 billion per year, although the pressure is not small, Jingzhou can still support it. Even if there are shortcomings, the shortage is limited. Compared with the benefits of Hanzhong, it is indeed worth it."

Sun Ce had a slight jaw. His feeling was the same as Zhang Hong. If he could win Hanzhong like Xinpi said, it would be worth it even if he spent 3 billion or 5 billion military expenditures. First, it would cost money to raise soldiers. It was not that he would not spend money without fighting Hanzhong's soldiers, but just spend less; second, the benefits to win Hanzhong are not small, and he could make up for some. In addition to economic interests, Hanzhong's strategic position is more important, which is equivalent to cutting off the blood vessels of the Guanzhong court. Even if the court cannot die of blood loss, it will make it difficult for him to recover.

As one of the most outstanding strategists of this era, Zhang Hong obviously valued Hanzhong's strategic position more, so he accepted huge military expenditures of 20 to 30 billion yuan per year. Judging from the current economic situation in Jingzhou, it is not easy to spend so much money every year.

But Sun Ce still did not express his opinion. He had two chief ministers. Zhang Hong expressed his opinion, but Yu Fan had not spoken yet. Looking at his disdainful look, Xin Pi's argument obviously failed to convince him, but instead aroused his fighting spirit. Xin Pi pointed the finger at Yangzhou. Although Zhang Hong did not express his opinion, he was unwilling to take responsibility for Yangzhou. Yangzhou was responsible for Yu Fan, which was equivalent to pointing the finger at Yu Fan. With Yu Fan's intelligence, it is impossible to feel it. With Yu Fan's temper, it is impossible to laugh it off.

Sun Ce communicated with Zhang Hong with his eyes, confirmed that he had expressed his opinions, and turned to look at Yu Fan.

"Zhongxiang?"

Yu Fan raised his head and looked around deliberately. "Are you finished talking?"

Sun Ce was speechless. This guy is so ostentatious and has no friends.

Xinpi stepped forward, bowed his hands, looked at Yu Fan with a bright look, and said in a deep voice: "Please correct me, Chief Yu."

Sun Ce knew that Xinpi was not targeting him, but was also infected by Xinpi's strong fighting spirit. No wonder Yu Fan's attitude was so hated. Xinpi had already proposed to go to Luoyang. Whether the Yizhou strategy could be implemented had nothing to do with him. Part of the reason why he stood up and spoke was that he had a good start and ended well, stood in the last shift, and helped Zhou Yu fulfill his wish, but more of the reason was that he had to be divided into a good position with Yu Fan.

Yu glanced at him. "Don't worry, I will evaluate your two plans, but I will talk about it when I finish talking about something more important. No matter what I do, you have the right one, right?"

Xinpi's cheeks were twitched. Yu Fan's words obviously refer to the dispute just now, but he could not object, so he had to take a step back. "Vi Xi listened to the noble arguments of the emperor."

"There is no need to wash your ears. I have no world to give in, nor do I have the intention to compliment you. I have a few unpleasant words. If you can listen and be inspired, I will be satisfied."

Xinpi's eyes shrank slightly, and she smiled without laughing. "I have heard of the great scholars of the chiefs and the civil and military talents for a long time. If Via has the opportunity to listen to the noble arguments of the chiefs and the nobles, he will definitely benefit a lot."

Yu Xiang smiled, stood up straight, and bowed to Sun Ce. "General, I think what you said is different, but it loses a surprising consistency. The song is like a thorn in your throat, and you must say it. If there is any offense, please forgive me."

When Sun Ce heard this, he was shocked. He not only looked down on Zhou Yu, but also had opinions about Zhang Hong. This was to attack him indiscriminately. Even he himself knew that it might hurt people, so he had to say hello and lay the groundwork.

"Zhongxiang, it's no different to discuss things."

Yu Fan responded, turned to Zhang Hong again, and raised the corners of his mouth slightly. Zhang Hong stroked his beard and smiled. "Zhongxiang said frankly, I can still bear it."

"Thank you, Chief Secretary." Yu Fan shook his sleeves, raised his body, walked back and forth with his hands behind his back, stopped in front of the map, looked for a while, laughed, and turned to look at Zhou Yu. "General Zhou, you just said that the imperial court occupied Guanzhong and earned the grain of Yizhou, which was the situation of Qin and Guandong confrontation back then. Did I hear that right?"

Zhou Yu nodded. "The chief minister has a very poor memory and there is no omission..."

Before he finished speaking, Yu Fan shook his head and said, "Fan thought it was inappropriate, not only was it inappropriate, but it was a big mistake."

Xinpi was furious and was about to speak, but Zhou Yu reached out and told him not to worry. Zhou Yu's face was calm and he had a faint smile, and he couldn't tell at all that he was unhappy. "Please correct me, Chief Secretary."

Yu turned around and looked at Xin Pi, and said, "Are you not convinced?"

Xinpi said angrily: "Although Via is ignorant, she only obeys reason and does not accept it all her life."

"Then let me ask you, from the Zhou emperor's appointment of Qin Zhong as a doctor to Xiang Yu's destruction of Qin, six or seven hundred years apart, what exactly did you mean by the confrontation between Qin and Guandong?"

Xinpi suddenly spoke, showing some embarrassment, and then said in a resentment: "Of course, it was before the Qin King Zheng launched a military force to destroy the six kingdoms."

Yu Fan sneered: "Do you think the Guanzhong court today can be compared with the Qin State at that time?"

"Although the strength is very different, its power is the same. Qin was not born strong in Guanzhong, but the monarch and ministers worked hard to govern and reform and strengthened themselves, so they became bigger step by step until they swallowed the world. We, the strategy of Jianyizhou, wanted to take Hanzhong, was also worried that the Guanzhong court would receive supplies, recuperate and revival."

Yu Fan shook his head. "Georgia was too worried. In the Qin Dynasty, Guanzhong had a wealthy household registration and a fertile field of thousands of miles. In the Tianfu country, the population in Guanzhong is now withering, and one in ten is not enough. How can I attack me? What you call the monarch and ministers working hard to govern is just a dying struggle. Not to mention swallowing the world, it is good to survive. To be forced, it can be compared to the Qin Dynasty of Ziying. Even if Yizhou transports grain, how long can it last? How much can it be consumed on the road to transport grain from Chengdu to Chang'an? How many years can Yizhou last? Instead of worrying that the court rekinds its life in Guanzhong, it is better to worry that the court enters Yizhou and defend itself. With your intelligence, I would not have thought of this. The reason why I didn't think about it is naturally to conclude that the court would not do this, right?"

Xinpi pondered silently, and Zhou Yu also frowned.

Yu Fan sneered: "No matter whether it is, or not, there is at least a little bit of confirmation. Even if there is Yizhou, the court will not be able to revive it. Yizhou can only let the court breathe for a few years at most, but it cannot regain its vitality. In this case, whether to take Hanzhong or not will not affect the situation in the world. Your so-called Yizhou strategy is just a corner view. Xin Zhuozhi, do you understand what I am talking about now? Do you feel that you have benefited a lot?"
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