Hearing Chen Lin’s question, Ma Dong and Guo Degang looked at each other.

"I asked my father about this."

Ma Dong said first, "My father's personality is just not wanting to talk about these things. He doesn't speak. Everyone thinks he is ashamed to speak. It is difficult for me to explain the causes and consequences of this matter to everyone. But the old man who is alive now knows the causes and consequences of this matter. Huang Hong's father, Teacher Huang Feng, wrote me a piece of paper, which records all the information about this matter. In fact, in my opinion, there is no need. Anyway, I have to say, no!"

Guo Degang also said, "I have asked my master and Hou Yaowen about this matter, and I asked while the second uncle, Mr. Hou Yaohua, was with me. I asked my master first. My master decided to say 'No!' I asked the second uncle again, and he also said 'Nothing!'"

"Now you have to investigate who reported this matter, is it possible? In my opinion, being misunderstood is a destiny expressed, so let him go, anyway, it is also a kind of history!"

"And even if we both come forward to explain this, there will definitely be people who don't believe it!"

"Yes! People are more willing to believe in dramatic endings!"

Are the two united? What else can Chen Lin say about this?

OK, let’s believe it!

"Let's say something else, let's talk about the spread of the art of crosstalk!"

Ma Dong took the initiative to change the topic.

"We have crosstalk, and once we open, we have to go to the teahouse, and then we have five or six hundred viewers, and then radio, and then radio is TV. We say that crosstalk and TV are not suitable for the local environment, and the crosstalk on TV always feel that there is a lack of flavor. Then your Deyun Club small theater rose, and the changes in communication methods determine the changes in crosstalk content. I especially want to hear what you think about this topic!"

This guy is obviously because the host is wrong, so he actually asked a question, is there anyone who is a guest like this?

However, Chen Lin likes to listen very much.

"When we first went to the sky bridge to talk about this crosstalk, the old gentlemen were wearing whatever they had. They met face to face, surrounded by people, and said that..."

"Wow! Face to face? Aren't you standing side by side?"

Chen Lin couldn't help but say in surprise.

"It's face to face. We call it Huaguo. This circle is my pot..."

"Don't there be these inside and outside the table?"

Ma Dong guessed that it was the first time he heard this and asked in a hurry.

"No, there may be a table, which is left for the rich young master to sit and listen."

"Are all the talks on the streets dirty?"

“It’s not all about scoring occasions.”

"Yes, there may be female relatives."

"Female relatives cannot appear there. As long as there is a woman, they will definitely be bombarded away. I think this is the last way for artists to maintain their self-esteem. In front of other women, we cannot let our hearts go."

Guo Degang was obviously interested.

"I arrived at the teahouse later, and that was different."

"The teahouse is the land that the boss has to pay the rent..."

"I can invite you because I like your level! How much wallet (reward) do you get in a month? I have to get the teahouse boss to recognize me!"

"right!"

"When you arrive at the teahouse, your identity is different. It's a bit higher than the artists on the street. At least I have a stage."

“This has been the case throughout the Republic of China!”

"And relatively speaking, the status of crosstalk artists is relatively low. No matter how good you speak crosstalk, you are the second to last program in the teahouse. The finale is always the drums! We have to thank Mr. Hou Baoling for this. Mr. Zhang Shoucheng said, 'Hou Baoling is a hero of crosstalk'. That's it. Starting from Mr. Hou, crosstalk can be accumulated!"

"I think this process is very important. In fact, many classic programs appeared during this period, and many famous artists have also appeared, including the five crosstalks in Tianjin, and the Chang family appeared during this period!"

"Then in the 1980s, the television media began to rise, and a large number of crosstalk actors appeared!"

Speaking of this, Guo Degang paused for a moment.

"I know you're indignant about this history!"

Ma Dong smiled and joked.

Chen Lin also laughed.

In "On the Current Situation of Fifty Years of Crosstalk", Guo Degang criticized the crosstalk actors who appeared during this period.

"Hey! I'm not as angry as I was back then. In fact, looking back, existence is reasonable! If I were a young and middle-aged actor at that time, I would have to do this. If I didn't do this, what else could I do?"

"Hehe, so what exists is reasonable."

"Until the early 1990s, sketches gradually came to the forefront, and the people, including the actors themselves, could not speak crosstalk as much as sketches."

"This is caused by changes in the way of transmission!"

Ma Dong has always played the role of supporting actor.

"I went to Beijing three times, the first time was in 1988 and 1989. At that time, I participated in a crosstalk competition and went out to perform with the Quyi Troupe. Until 1995 and 1996, I dreamed of becoming such an actor..."

"Are you referring to the kind of actors in the system you often mock it?"

Chen Lin suddenly answered the sentence.

"right!"

Lao Guo replied honestly.

"I really envied those actors at that time. They wore small suits and had red lips. I always thought that it would be a wonderful thing if I could record a show on TV like them, participate in a Zhengda variety show, or something like that!"

"I'm really happy that you can say that!"

Ma Dong replied quietly.

He was also very upset because the system actors Guo Degang mentioned were all the heads of Mr. Ma Ji!

"So people have changed. At that time, I also recorded crosstalks on TV stations. It's really difficult to say conscience! On the one hand, it's a reason for censorship. On the other hand, I can't help but work, and I'm exhausted. I'll give you 12 minutes and specify you to talk about family planning crosstalks. What can you do? My colleagues also chatted with each other, just 12 minutes. Don't say too much, don't admit it if you say too much, at least you'll fool it. You'll fool it, and I'll fool it. This industry will definitely be over! I was also very confused at the time and couldn't see a way out!"

"Then why did you embark on the road to revitalizing crosstalk?"

The interviewer became Chen Lin.

"Actually, I didn't say at the beginning that I wanted to revitalize crosstalk. These were labels posted by some media later."

"I remember one summer, I talked about "Selling Cloth Heads" in a teahouse. I was very impressed. The teahouse was in Liulichang, not too big, only about twenty square meters. The house was crowded with people inside and outside. When I finished speaking, the applause was thunderous, and the applause almost overturned the beams!"

"I just thought about it. It turns out that the audience doesn't like listening to crosstalk, they like it!"
Chapter completed!